Cris is Cristiano my fellow FS admin. I also posted a reply to another Cris who was already thinking about this stuff.
I think, modify the MyBlogLog plugin to pull the openid records for known commenters and pull the class="photo" hCard microformat from there. I have been meaning to get into WP development, so this might be fun.
Ah good old mr. messina, looks like a good idea. You could even have different avatars for different profiles since most openid providers now support profiles.
I guess the only way to actually get this functionality is by pestering openid providers to implement it or atsrting your own openid provider that features this and leading by example. You could talk to robert and chris obdam since they head the openid initiative here in the netherlands and they might be willing to implement this into http://mijnopenid.nl/ for a start.
Associating your hCard with your OpenID URL. That way anybody who knows your OpenID can get your public details and your avatar from the hCard.
Adding this data to the stuff your OpenID provider can supply. This would allow you to control which data to give to whom but it would complicate matters I think.
In 2. you would have to be an OpenID consumer to be able to get this data. In 1. anybody with the URL could follow the links and parse the markup to get the datae. It is something of a balance between privacy and ease in which I am leaning towards 1.
yeah i guess option 1 might indeed be the easiest route. as i understand it in this case your openid url, when accessed through a browser or any GET request, would offer up a simple webpage with a hCard on it containing the data and avatar picture which you deemed public. right?
i guess both options require adoption from openid providers though. you might be able to circumvent that using your openid url to host your hCard and avatars and using delegation to handle actual authentication. i.e. i use tijs.org as my openid but it delegates authentication to mijnopenid.nl/is/tijs. i could turn the tijs.org webpage into an hCard + 512x512 pixel avatar host and not be limited by my openid provider. off course this only works if you have an actual website but who doesn't and if you don't you could always use an openid provider who offers both services in one.
does any of that make sense? might help if we sketch out a few use-cases first and see which system solves it best.
If you don't have an actual website, it won't work indeed. But for now I think it is easier for those with websites to prototype it. Hosted OpenID solutions such as LiveJournal can always incorporate it when there is a standard microformat.
I don't think the discussion on microformats is very relevant. img class="photo" is already used in hCard. What we're talking about is a way to discover an avatar by relating a hCard to an OpenID.
My OpenID http://alper.nl contains an invisible hCard with a photo in it. I think that's pretty much al there is needed. Now for applications...
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i dumped it from my site, pretty useless if you ask me...
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
We were trying to do something with avatars for writers and commenters but it seems like too much of a struggle.
I told Cris to implement the OpenID microformat for avatars, but he was reluctant.
2 years, 9 months ago by alper
that would be pretty neat, or just use gravatar. they are back in the air again too
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
Cris is Cristiano my fellow FS admin. I also posted a reply to another Cris who was already thinking about this stuff.
I think, modify the MyBlogLog plugin to pull the openid records for known commenters and pull the class="photo" hCard microformat from there. I have been meaning to get into WP development, so this might be fun.
2 years, 9 months ago by alper
Ah good old mr. messina, looks like a good idea. You could even have different avatars for different profiles since most openid providers now support profiles.
I guess the only way to actually get this functionality is by pestering openid providers to implement it or atsrting your own openid provider that features this and leading by example. You could talk to robert and chris obdam since they head the openid initiative here in the netherlands and they might be willing to implement this into http://mijnopenid.nl/ for a start.
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
Ik heb de heren alvast deze kant uit gestuurd....
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
I see two ways of doing this:
Associating your hCard with your OpenID URL. That way anybody who knows your OpenID can get your public details and your avatar from the hCard.
Adding this data to the stuff your OpenID provider can supply. This would allow you to control which data to give to whom but it would complicate matters I think.
In 2. you would have to be an OpenID consumer to be able to get this data. In 1. anybody with the URL could follow the links and parse the markup to get the datae. It is something of a balance between privacy and ease in which I am leaning towards 1.
2 years, 9 months ago by alper
yeah i guess option 1 might indeed be the easiest route. as i understand it in this case your openid url, when accessed through a browser or any GET request, would offer up a simple webpage with a hCard on it containing the data and avatar picture which you deemed public. right?
i guess both options require adoption from openid providers though. you might be able to circumvent that using your openid url to host your hCard and avatars and using delegation to handle actual authentication. i.e. i use tijs.org as my openid but it delegates authentication to mijnopenid.nl/is/tijs. i could turn the tijs.org webpage into an hCard + 512x512 pixel avatar host and not be limited by my openid provider. off course this only works if you have an actual website but who doesn't and if you don't you could always use an openid provider who offers both services in one.
does any of that make sense? might help if we sketch out a few use-cases first and see which system solves it best.
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
on second thought i guess my alternative is exactly what chris and you are advocating. :) with the same con of not supporting multiple profiles.
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
it's to bad the discussion about this on the microformats blog went nowhere... http://tinyurl.com/2jmalz
2 years, 9 months ago by tijs
If you don't have an actual website, it won't work indeed. But for now I think it is easier for those with websites to prototype it. Hosted OpenID solutions such as LiveJournal can always incorporate it when there is a standard microformat.
I don't think the discussion on microformats is very relevant. img class="photo" is already used in hCard. What we're talking about is a way to discover an avatar by relating a hCard to an OpenID.
My OpenID http://alper.nl contains an invisible hCard with a photo in it. I think that's pretty much al there is needed. Now for applications...
2 years, 9 months ago by alper
Check this out.
2 years, 8 months ago by alper
good stuff, updated my tijs.org openid right away.
2 years, 8 months ago by tijs